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If HTML were still for people, rather than corporations, we'd still have blink and marquee tags in the current spec.

@HauntedOwlbear To be fair, that clearly belongs to CSS.

@Sylvhem I have an entire set of opinions about CSS, most of which boil down to the idea that, although separating content from formatting has arguments in its favour (I've worked in publishing, I really do get it), the move to do so destroyed the broader accessibility and flexibility of HTML.

I also dislike CSS as a language, but I'm prepared to accept that as a me thing.

@HauntedOwlbear Really? I’m only doing HTML and CSS has a hobby, but I always felt like it let things be more flexible, not less. You can apply different styling to the same page without having to touch the content, and I think that’s pretty cool!

@Sylvhem Honestly, this is more an "old man shakes fist at cloud" position / blatant shitpost † than any kind of thing I can maintain an actual argument for.

† the top post, but I really do dislike CSS personally - I think the main thing is that it's no longer trivial to just scribble your entire site and its formatting into a text editor and have something attractive and functional 10 minutes later.

(Although obviously, I can do that using depreciated code, and fully intend to: eldritch.cafe/@HauntedOwlbear/ )

Eldritch Café13 barn owls in a trench coat (@HauntedOwlbear@eldritch.cafe)@eniko@peoplemaking.games I'm making a new website for one of my weirder projects, and have more or less decided to cobble it together in what HTML3 I still remember, plus a couple of multimedia features from HTML5, because even static site generators are grotesquely overcomplicated and burdensome.

@HauntedOwlbear But you can do that with CSS too. I recently did just that for a little website I’m working on.

@Sylvhem oh fine (that is incredibly cool, though, could I see your site?)

To be specific I personally cannot knock out a dedicated CSS file correctly to accompany my HTML, and definitely don't have time to learn the skill 😭

Martijn Frazer

@HauntedOwlbear @Sylvhem I'm happy to teach you if you want me to.

CSS can be a lot of fun!

@Tijn @Sylvhem

That's incredibly sweet, and when my time is less rationed, I shall take you up on it!

I genuinely love how fedi has the very "no, look, this thing is good, you can learn how to do it, I believe in you!" attitude. You're both being awesome like that.

@HauntedOwlbear I hope you do! I mean, I'm not the world's greatest CSS guru or anything, nor am I a professional teacher, but I've been working with HTML and CSS for 20 years, so I'd like to think I've picked up a thing or two and are happy to share what I know in order to make you achieve whatever you want to achieve.